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Oldler ultra light plane 1000$ - caribou BC
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Hmmm. I don't think I'd have to renew my PP license for that.
Unfortunately you'll need a ultralight licence to legally fly it in Canada in the USA your good to go if under 250 lbs and carries less then 5 gallons of fuel.
Kinda jealous of how USA handles micro lights lol basically free for all.
That’s going to be the only way I get back into flying I think, though I strongly suspect my flying days are behind me- I’d rather buy books and tools…
you would need to find someone who has the patterns for new sails, the covering on those things are not like that on a fabric airplane, they are sewn up like a pillow case and slipped over the wing ribs. Unfortunately not generic
i also wonder, with 2 engines does it classify it as a multi engine ? is there a multi engine rating for an ultra lite, or maybe tc doesnt care if its below 1200gvw
i also wonder, with 2 engines does it classify it as a multi engine ? is there a multi engine rating for an ultra lite, or maybe tc doesnt care if its below 1200gvw
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Be in the air for under $1010...
I feel like they probably don't care because of the weight rating but then agian transport Canada has some dumb ideas so maybe depends on who you ask lol.
I remembering seeing a ultralight some one built out of 4 weed Wacker engines but can't seem to find any pictures of it.
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Seems a lot of things are basically a *free for all* in the USA now days.
The part 103 aircraft in the states are pretty restrictive, empty weight of less than 254 lbs, less than 5 gallons of gas, max 55kts full power in level flight....Add to that it would be lunacy to go flying without some instruction (10-20hrs min) at that point you might as well just get an ultralight permit (min 10hrs flight/20hrs ground school in Canada) and open up a much wider variety of planes you can legally fly
once you start looking into the part 103 it starts to make less and less sense, and those that are out there i feel probably color outside the lines with regards to fuel load
i mean if they did that would be the cheapest ME time a guy could ever get right?
once you start looking into the part 103 it starts to make less and less sense, and those that are out there i feel probably color outside the lines with regards to fuel load
i mean if they did that would be the cheapest ME time a guy could ever get right?
ive seen those on the net, wondered the same thing about the me rating for them as well
I wonder how much adverse yaw you would get with only one engine, they aren't very powerful or very far apart, so maybe, hopefully it would be manageable
But a lot of drag on the dead leg.
They'd be a lot of fun till they're not a lot of fun anymore.
Always thought a Lakes amphib might be fun but that high thrust line scared the bejeezus out of me.
Vx or Vy climb, full climb power, if that engine hiccups that high pitch down force from the power is suddenly reversed and you're doing loops at low altitude a few knots above the stall. A friend of mine found that out the hard way, excellent pilot, very experienced test pilot. No time to do anything but die. Silver lining, I picked up several flight test programs in his absence but I would have been much happier getting the work a different way.
They'd be a lot of fun till they're not a lot of fun anymore.
Always thought a Lakes amphib might be fun but that high thrust line scared the bejeezus out of me.
Vx or Vy climb, full climb power, if that engine hiccups that high pitch down force from the power is suddenly reversed and you're doing loops at low altitude a few knots above the stall. A friend of mine found that out the hard way, excellent pilot, very experienced test pilot. No time to do anything but die. Silver lining, I picked up several flight test programs in his absence but I would have been much happier getting the work a different way.
Yea true that would be a lot of drag, you wouldn't want it to happen on departure
it seems like a novelty, two engines on a ultralight, maybe you save a few bucks by going with small motors, but there are two of them, and two props, the cost and weight savings cant be there when you double your component count, and of course your reliability is halved, 2 of everything, double the possibility of failure, its not like you have two turbines, two weed eater engines.....
I wonder when that novelty was kicking around why no one did something like a skymaster, one in front, one in the back
your friend found out in a lake amphib ? those look interesting, but so many drawbacks, slow, draggy, bad on fuel, that engine way up in the sponson must bring up a whole list of problems plus maintenance difficulty's, and then the high thrust line, I imagine if that engine quits it must create a massive pitching up moment
it seems like a novelty, two engines on a ultralight, maybe you save a few bucks by going with small motors, but there are two of them, and two props, the cost and weight savings cant be there when you double your component count, and of course your reliability is halved, 2 of everything, double the possibility of failure, its not like you have two turbines, two weed eater engines.....
I wonder when that novelty was kicking around why no one did something like a skymaster, one in front, one in the back
your friend found out in a lake amphib ? those look interesting, but so many drawbacks, slow, draggy, bad on fuel, that engine way up in the sponson must bring up a whole list of problems plus maintenance difficulty's, and then the high thrust line, I imagine if that engine quits it must create a massive pitching up moment
Yep that's exactly what happened, 50' off a lake, not a chance.
Had a student who had one, lived on a lake, taxied right up a ramp into the basement.
The Lazair not only had two engines but two props on each, clocked together. Don’t ask
I more so like idea of part 103 for paramotoring or powered hang gliders as it's pretty hard to get a useful ultralight plane to fall under part 103. That and your restricted to were you can fly but you shouldn't be flying over developed areas anyways with these class of flying machines.
And ye it definitely advisable to get training as there are lots of paramotor accidents in the USA. But even with training you can still mess up lol. Slipped on wet grass and face planted full throttle into the ground so was fairly lucky to just mess up 2 fingers.
I did a bit of paramotoring for little bit and did the training for it too so I could fly them in canada but I found out it's very hard to pass a medical when you got type 1 diabetes so kinda killed the dream a bit lol.
If you hold a higher class medical and catch diabetes, you can not downgrade to a four. If you apply for a four you have to declare diabetes and that would kick up to TC. If you hold a one and have a commercial licence there are no restrictions if your diabetes is under control, but if you do insulin you would be restricted to multi crew operations. No recreational stuff.