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New Year's Prime Rib Roast Hash Leftovers

TorontoBuilder said:
I live in the wealthiest area of Scarborough, but right next to the poorest area. The local grocery stores wont even put out a decent cut of any meat, it's like the send the garbage meat to our stores. Even the one in the heart of the wealthy hood. It all comes down to loss prevention.

I dont mind people who steal to eat, but stealing prime rib is not stealing to survive, it's stealing to resell.

The gist of it is, around here you have no choice but to go to the butcher with a massive mark up, or travel a ways to a decent grocery store to get a halfway decent cut of meat.

When I was young working way thru school in the early 80s I tried working in loss prevention for a while. One of the training stores I worked at was a grocery store at corner of Jane and Finch. My trainer was pretty lousy... he'd say "stay here" and run off to watch suspicious person leaving me know idea of what cues he was keying on to detect shoplifters. In a single day there would be at least 10 people caught trying to steal prime cuts of meat. one woman stuffed several roasts down her dress. Loss prevention would only catch a fraction of the thieves.

I quit, because when I worked the store alone I only managed to catch one minor about 14 stuffing multi pack of chocolate bars in her shirt during my shift. Talk about disheartening, like being in middle of an opal mine not being able to find opals
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Well, nowadays you'd probably be a star loss prevention officer.

Try putting your hands on someone stealing today and there's a good chance you'd get in trouble.
 
Elektrishun said:
Wow - that brings back memories!

I went to Cody and all those places with my wife and in-laws in about 3 B.K. (B.K. - before kids).
The main attraction was my father-in-law attending a poetry reading by a famous cowboy poet (can't remember his name).
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And we musnt forget Cody's "Big Bubba's BBQ"...a life changing experience you will never forget. 3 items on the menu...Small Med or large order of BBQ and a large order requires 3 plates to hold it all!!!!
 
slow-poke said:
I need to shed a few pounds after the Christmas dinners,
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I actually lost weight this year. We only had one dinner here. The other meals were at my kids places. They all believe in eating "healthy". What kind of crap is that! I hate green stuff..... YUK!
 
historicalarms said:
And we musnt forget Cody's "Big Bubba's BBQ"...a life changing experience you will never forget. 3 items on the menu...Small Med or large order of BBQ and a large order requires 3 plates to hold it all!!!!
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I have a restaurant near me that doesn’t have small pizza’s just medium, large, and extra large. In my opinion it should be illegal to omit small for medium and should be classed as false advertising or bait and switch at least.
 
Tom O said:
I have a restaurant near me that doesn’t have small pizza’s just medium, large, and extra large. In my opinion it should be illegal to omit small for medium and should be classed as false advertising or bait and switch at least.
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Around here, even large is small.

The best pizza in the whole world is in Windsor, Ontario.
 
ChazzC said:
A little place in Schio, Italy comes to mind . . .
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I doubt it. Worst pizza in the world is in Italy. Go figure.

Anyway, every time they have a global pizza rating contest Windsor wins. Chicago is a close second though. Started by the same family.
 
Susquatch said:
I doubt it. Worst pizza in the world is in Italy. Go figure.

Anyway, every time they have a global pizza rating contest Windsor wins. Chicago is a close second though. Started by the same family.
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I should do some research before I make statements like that. Seems my info is out dated and lots of places beat Windsor now. At least in the ratings. I took one look at the 2024 winner in New York and damn near puked. Looks horrible.

But I still get pizza every time we go to Windsor.
 
Susquatch said:
I should do some research before I make statements like that. Seems my info is out dated and lots of places beat Windsor now. At least in the ratings. I took one look at the 2024 winner in New York and damn near puked. Looks horrible.

But I still get pizza every time we go to Windsor.
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Reminds me of a flight I took from Chicago I took years ago (was a connecting flight to maybe LA?): a couple in the row in front of me was complaining to the flight attendant about this weird thick pizza they were served after ordering “pizza” - “It was terrible, we couldn’t eat it so have to a homeless man.”
 
Susquatch said:
I doubt it. Worst pizza in the world is in Italy. Go figure.

Anyway, every time they have a global pizza rating contest Windsor wins. Chicago is a close second though. Started by the same family.
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Foods are subjective, and every region has there own styles; after all, there are people who love Mexican pizza (with canned olives) and Hawaiian pizza.

Italy has different styles within the country, just like here in NA.
 
ChazzC said:
Foods are subjective, and every region has there own styles; after all, there are people who love Mexican pizza (with canned olives) and Hawaiian pizza.
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Absolutely agree. I laughed at your homeless donation in Chicago. I can see it.

Even within the circle of my family and friends, there are differences of opinion on what Pizza is best. But generally, they all like varients of the original Windsor family pizza. It's a long story that I will shorten. My version is that "Windsor Pizza" began back in the 40s 50s and 60s at an Italian place on Ouellette Ave called Mario's. (This is a hotly contested fact. See attached articles.) But I came to Windsor in the late 50s and was an adult in the 60s. So I have my own memories of Windsor's Pizza history. A Windsor City Library article linked below mentions three different beginnings one of which aligns with my memory of it.

As Mario's family grew up and spread out, they started Arcata, Armandos, Italian, Capri, Antonino's, Rosa's and Sam's. (Sam's is also mentioned as an original, but I know for a fact that Sam's was purchased by one of Mario's kids and that's also when they added pizza to their menu. I also know that one of the family members moved to Chicago and that's why there is some good pizza in Chicago too. There are probably more now. All adhered to the family recipe for the medium thick dough, de-emphasized crust, shredded pepperoni, canned mushrooms, and a special blend of cheeses all baked in a big wood fired brick and stone pizza oven. And I do mean BIG.

I think the real secrets are the shredded pepperoni so every bite gets its share, copious amounts of the local high fat Mozarella cheeze that adds a heavy gooyee full flavored body to each bite. Canned mushrooms are a contrarian secret element too - canned shrooms don't add water or become crispy or flakey like sliced mushrooms do.

There are lots of competing stories and many include the name Volcanos. To be honest, I don't recall that place at all.

Here is a typical photo of a Classic Windsor PIZZA.

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And here are some references.


www.flavournetwork.ca

The History Of The Windsor-Style Pizza | Flavour Network

What exactly makes Windsor pizza so special? Here’s what you “knead” to know about Windsor’s signature slice.
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ChazzC said:
Italy has different styles within the country, just like here in NA.
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My wife was born in Italy. She says that Italian pizza is not at all like Windsor Pizza and not really like Pizza in North America either. For the most part she says it's just baked dough with a little olive oil on it and sometimes tomatoe sauce or diced veggies on it. Sort of like what we might call Bruschetta here. According to her, melted cheese on pizza in Italy is rare.

Frankly, I'm more than a bit disappointed that Windsor seems to have lost its pizza crown.
 
Dan Dubeau said:
You're almost making a case for a reason to actually visit Windsor. Almost......
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If you want a better reason, I'd suggest it's a great place to buy used industrial equipment - both large and small and everything in between.

Plus - you get to stop in at my farm, and get spoiled rotten by a charming woman who loves to cook and an ugly old man who loves to talk shop!
 
I'll for sure pop in for a visit next time I'm down that way. My visits down there this summer didn't really go as planned......so I couldn't really get away. This year for sure. I've been down to Windsor a few times, but mostly just driven through it while crossing the border. I'll be sure to stop for a pizza next time :D. As for machines, I'm full. I won't be buying anymore......
 
Susquatch said:
My wife was born in Italy. She says that Italian pizza is not at all like Windsor Pizza and not really like Pizza in North America either. For the most part she says it's just baked dough with a little olive oil on it and sometimes tomatoe sauce or diced veggies on it. Sort of like what we might call Bruschetta here. According to her, melted cheese on pizza in Italy is rare.
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Just curious: where in Italy?

I’ve had pizza in Sicily & Naples in the late 1970’s, Schio & Venice in the early 2000’s and Rome in 2014: none of these were anything like what she described. While not piled high with toppings, definitely nothing like bruschetta or flatbread, oil and tomato sauce. Italian pizza that I have is all about the crust, hand crushed canned tomatoes (not sauce), some protein, fresh cheese and a drizzle of olive oil & herbs after cooking in a wood-fired oven for about a minute (maybe 2 if early in the day before the oven is really hot).
 
ChazzC said:
Just curious: where in Italy?

I’ve had pizza in Sicily & Naples in the late 1970’s, Schio & Venice in the early 2000’s and Rome in 2014: none of these were anything like what she described. While not piled high with toppings, definitely nothing like bruschetta or flatbread, oil and tomato sauce. Italian pizza that I have is all about the crust, hand crushed canned tomatoes (not sauce), some protein, fresh cheese and a drizzle of olive oil & herbs after cooking in a wood-fired oven for about a minute (maybe 2 if early in the day before the oven is really hot).
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She was born in a tiny place north of Venice. If you want specifics PM me.

When I read her what you like, she said ya, that's typical of most pizza in Italy. So maybe not bruschetta, but still closer to bruschetta than what either of us like. See earlier photos of Windsor Pizza.

As you say, personal preferences vary widely.
 
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