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Netflix price increase at wrong time entirely

Mcgyver said:
As I recall this was about keeping the Cdn gov happy, not people avoiding paying subscription fees. The Cdn gov insists on controlling what you watch and they can't do that if you watch the US Netflix (which has different content than the Cdn netflix)
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Content distribution and licensing is the real reason. Due to existing deals some content is only able to be viewed in some rather than all netflix regions. The content providers had to assure licensees that they'd have exclusive regional broadcast rights. They could only accomplish this assurance by forcing distributors aka streamers to block access to services based on geopolitical regions.

I'd not a govt thing, it is about assuring people they can make money on the content without competition. So a monopoly and greed thang

The govt only cares that they get a tax on your primary account, they really dont give a turd what you watch and where it comes from.
 
TorontoBuilder said:
The ads on traditional cable TV did not generate any revenue for the cable TV infrastructure providers you pay a cable fee to. The same applies to IPTV, FibeTV, the fee covers the infrastructure to bring a feed into your home, the provider does not earn revenue from the ads the local stations are selling to advertisers, those revenues go to local broadcast stations or networks.

So no conflict there.
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Cable providers pay/license to carry channels and essentially pass on the costs to us when we buy packages (we cant pick and chose select channels to save money). There is a double pay for channels that run advertisement and also what we won't want.
 
architect said:
And traditional cable TV subscriptions that also run ads?
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I'd like to add a comment here as an old guy.

I remember our very first TV. Before that, there was only radio and I remember before radio too. At first the ads were short and tolerable. Then it got so you could use the ads as time to go get some munchies or a drink or take a potty break. You could not press pause or FFWD.

After a long while, it got so bad that half the air time was ads.

Then along came satelite. Pay us a small subscription fee and you can watch ad free for life!

As the networks closed down, the ads started to appear on satelite. Then along came cable. Dump your satelite and enjoy ad free programming for life on our cable system! And so the bait and switch continues. I've been screwed so many times I'm sick of it.

Today, our entertainment usage is ultra low. I only subscribe so my grandkids don't kill each other.

I am ok with YouTube and Netflix, but I prefer a good book. I bought the book. I own the book. I get no ads. I can add bookmarks, and I get to re-read it as often as I want. Best of all I get to read something that has very high odds of being written by a real honest to god expert.

Ya, I'm grumpy, old fashioned, and proud of it too!
 
TorontoBuilder said:
I'd not a govt thing, it is about assuring people they can make money on the content without competition. So a monopoly and greed thang
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I think there is a government control side too John. You are right about the monopoly of course, but I sincerely believe there is also a government control angle. I also think that the government and the networks have made a devil's deal with each other behind closed doors.

I don't really want to debate this issue on the forum. But I'm happy to do so by txt or even a phone call. I really just want to say here that I think this issue is deeper than it appears.
 
Susquatch said:
I prefer a good book. I bought the book. I own the book. I get no ads. I can add bookmarks, and I get to re-read it as often as I want. Best of all I get to read something that has very high odds of being written by a real honest to god expert.
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The scam now with books is "Tom Clancy" covering half the cover when in fact it was written by an unknown 5 years after his death.
Buyer beware.
 
Susquatch said:
I remember our very first TV. Before that, there was only radio and I remember before radio too. At first the ads were short and tolerable. Then it got so you could use the ads as time to go get some munchies or a drink or take a potty break. You could not press pause or FFWD.
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Looking at the runtime now of old shows in 30-min and 1-hour slots really tells you how many ads were being wrapped into these shows. Kids shows were made to sell merchandise, and not even about the ads in between.

"Ads" are not what they use to be either in bounded, neat little obvious packages. Monetization today is a complex and bundled system and dividing lines can't be as readily discerned, by design.

I "split" $6 Netflix over two households and run adblock on media PCs. The kids love all the different animations outside the Disney pipeline and adults are getting some great international and indie content.
 
I pay for zero subscriptions of anything.
Never have, never will.
I read an interview with one of the inventors of the internet and he says that "shitification" has transformed and ruined it.
Try to do a search of some legitimate thing and you get layers of paid ads from sellers especially temmu and you wont find the info you ard looking for. That didnt happen 20 yrs ago
 
Susquatch said:
I think there is a government control side too John. You are right about the monopoly of course, but I sincerely believe there is also a government control angle. I also think that the government and the networks have made a devil's deal with each other behind closed doors.

I don't really want to debate this issue on the forum. But I'm happy to do so by txt or even a phone call. I really just want to say here that I think this issue is deeper than it appears.
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I'm not here to discuss political economy either. But the state absolutely cares about what we consume, if only supporting/growing production side economics whether Canadian dairy or telecoms, for example.
 
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architect said:
Cable providers pay/license to carry channels and essentially pass on the costs to us when we buy packages (we cant pick and chose select channels to save money). There is a double pay for channels that run advertisement and also what we won't want.
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ah sure we can pick and choose channels... unless you use one of those monopolistic quasi criminal providers
 
jorogi said:
The scam now with books is "Tom Clancy" covering half the cover when in fact it was written by an unknown 5 years after his death.
Buyer beware.
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I don't read books like that. Only txt books, manuals, technical books, and expert instruction books. Not much danger of a phoney writing stuff like that.
 
architect said:
Which "non-monopolistic" providers built your cable infrastructure and allows you to buy rent individual channels?
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Hahah you caught me.

I use a reseller that bulk buys resources from rogers. But unlike rogers you can purchase a minimum legislated TV package and then order as few or as many u pick channels.

These skinny packages came about due to consumer action to prevent cable monopolies gouging. But they still get their pound of flesh.
 
TorontoBuilder said:
Hahah you caught me.

I use a reseller that bulk buys resources from rogers. But unlike rogers you can purchase a minimum legislated TV package and then order as few or as many u pick channels.

These skinny packages came about due to consumer action to prevent cable monopolies gouging. But they still get their pound of flesh.
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Please do share more details for all of us of this mythical "reseller that bulks resources from Rogers" in the form of individual channels.

Back to the other point you never answered, you don't see conflicts in your own binary ethos of paying for individual channels, and still looking at ads from those channels? What happens when the ads not obvious segments, but sponsored segments within a show or product placement?
 
architect said:
Please do share more details for all of us of this mythical "reseller that bulks resources from Rogers" in the form of individual channels.

Back to the other point you never answered, you don't see conflicts in your own binary ethos of paying for individual channels, and still looking at ads from those channels? What happens when the ads not obvious segments, but sponsored segments within a show or product placement?
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if you're gonna quote, get it right "I use a reseller that bulk buys resources from rogers"

You seem to go out of your way to try to pick fights and imply I lie, so bye again.
 
TorontoBuilder said:
if you're gonna quote, get it right "I use a reseller that bulk buys resources from rogers"

You seem to go out of your way to try to pick fights and imply I lie, so bye again.
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These are simple line of inquiry to sort out ideas and share resources and information. It's only a fight if one feels threatened or challenged. Do you not like when your line of thought or ideas are open up for discussion? I misunderstand the point of your posts then.

I was at least hoping the rest of us could benefit from what now sounds like privileged access to Rogers, which is not an "open source" solution either.
 
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