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Netflix price increase at wrong time entirely

TorontoBuilder

TorontoBuilder

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So netflix has chosen to increase prices at a time when the US has chosen to alienate the entire world.

Bad move netflix, because our household was already deliberating on canceling your services before y'all pooped the bed. Before tariffs...

So currently binge watching sows to catch up on some shows.

Alternatives

Kanopy and Hoopla are available thru many local Canadian libraries for free.

Plex - free

Tubi - free

Roku Channel - free

CBC Gem - free

CTV - free

Pluto TV - free

Zeam TV - free live TV from local US stations and VOD content

Xumo Play - free

Shout TV Factory - free TV and movies website access only

Stirr

PBS App
 
I know a guy........

Serious programmer, he made some sort of Linux based firewall box that let's him watch all free movies without "them" being able to know who he is. I suppose plenty of people hide behind a VPN, but my take is that this is a level beyond that.

I guess inspired by Anon on Netflix?

Netflix fees what Netflix fees?
 
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I don't watch much TV at all. Maybe a documentary or a nature show once a month. But the grandkids all enjoy their favorite "shows" which depend mostly on their age.

I have found that Apollo has almost anything they want.

We do have Netflix, but we hardly ever use it.
 
When HomeDepot first opened, the prices and selection were so much better than the mom and pop hardware stores. Now that most of M&P stores have been wiped out, HD prices are 3x the M&P prices. We have a local Home Hardware, and it's a great store especially considering how small and close it is. I'm trying to get in the habit of asking myself will they have it at HH, and if the answer is probably yes, go there instead of just automatically think HD for all things hardware related.
 
DavidR8 said:
Netflix cracked down on VPNs a while back
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VPN works for me. Depends on what VPN service.

FWIW, there's $6 "ad" tier and with adblocking you never see any ads.

Started using Netflix in 2007 when my then NYC roommate told me about this DVD rental service through the mail. I still remember trying their in-progress laggy streaming service with a library of just a few D-tier movies.
 
We dropped Netflix after their last big price jump. What was that, 6 months ago?
I was surprised to hear about this round of price increases. Not trivial increases, but I expect it will have a big impact. Lotsa people are struggling.
Mind you, it could well be a push to get more people into their “sell them the service, then sell the customer to the advertisers” group.
 
architect said:
VPN works for me. Depends on what VPN service.

FWIW, there's $6 "ad" tier and with adblocking you never see any ads.

Started using Netflix in 2007 when my then NYC roommate told me about this DVD rental service through the mail. I still remember trying their in-progress laggy streaming service with a library of just a few D-tier movies.
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Yeah no ads when watching on a computer.
 
FatherWes said:
We dropped Netflix after their last big price jump. What was that, 6 months ago?
I was surprised to hear about this round of price increases. Not trivial increases, but I expect it will have a big impact. Lotsa people are struggling.
Mind you, it could well be a push to get more people into their “sell them the service, then sell the customer to the advertisers” group.
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I am actually not surprised.

With their past price increases and introduction of ad-supported subscriptions Netflix has gained a ton of metrics that helped craft pricing policies:

1. They know the correlation between the public outrage and people actually quitting netflix is actually very low.
2. They know the subscription conversion rate from basic and premium to ad-supported subscriptions upon a rate increase.
3. They know their advertising revenue, and know the revenue generation from the average ad-supported subscriber.
4. They know the ratio between streaming hours and subscription tiers.
5. They know the average gross revenue per streaming hour for each subscription tier.
6. They know the number of users streaming on 4K devices, and the conversion ratio from premium to ad-supported (which is low)

Based on the above it is very likely that Netflix has determined that they can raise prices of all subscriptions without fear of suffering reduced revenues. Furthermore they've likely determined that they will make more income by converting some basic users to the ad-supported subscriptions, and make more money per streaming hour

I wont be one of the suckers to convert to ad-supported account that will actually make them more money. When the Toronto Star converted from paid online subscription without advertising to paid with advertising I dropped them and haven't gone back. I access news via free services and the public library now.
 
architect said:
How do you feel about all the other "free" services (excluding gov subsidized, none profits) like Youtube that make a bulk of their money from ads or data?
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I dont pay for any of those services. I avoid companies that try to monetize me further when I'm already paying for their services. I only support those who offer a binary choice, it's either free to me with ad revenue to cover the cost or it's paid by me alone.
 
TorontoBuilder said:
I dont pay for any of those services. I avoid companies that try to monetize me further when I'm already paying for their services. I only support those who offer a binary choice, it's either free to me with ad revenue to cover the cost or it's paid by me alone.
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I exactly agree. I cut Amazon Prime the day they showed me an ad. Netflix has the same treatment.
I don't ever pay the mouse if I can help it (they reneged on a contract early in my career - f them).
I don't need them any more than I needed cable in the 90's, which was not at all.
 
TorontoBuilder said:
I dont pay for any of those services. I avoid companies that try to monetize me further when I'm already paying for their services. I only support those who offer a binary choice, it's either free to me with ad revenue to cover the cost or it's paid by me alone.
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And traditional cable TV subscriptions that also run ads?

I don't operate on those binaries and factor in other things.

In the case for Netflix, all the other major studio are starting their own services and taking back their own content. They compete with other companies that use streaming as a side business that can be offset. For Netflix to comete, they have now become produciton and distribution company, with several awards winners. They have produced a lot great off-beat indies and also importing a lot of foreign films that other traditional companies would not touch.

Netflix kids is also far suprior to Youtube Kids. Lots of friends who are parents are very happy with Netlix but wouldn't let their kids consume on other platforms.

With all these fracturing of "paid" and "free" services it's going to eventually go back to the cable model.
 
architect said:
And traditional cable TV subscriptions that also run ads?

I don't operate on those binaries and factor in other things.

In the case for Netflix, all the other major studio are starting their own services and taking back their own content. They compete with other companies that use streaming as a side business that can be offset. For Netflix to comete, they have now become produciton and distribution company, with several awards winners. They have produced a lot great off-beat indies and also importing a lot of foreign films that other traditional companies would not touch.

Netflix kids is also far suprior to Youtube Kids. Lots of friends who are parents are very happy with Netlix but wouldn't let their kids consume on other platforms.

With all these fracturing of "paid" and "free" services it's going to eventually go back to the cable model.
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The ads on traditional cable TV did not generate any revenue for the cable TV infrastructure providers you pay a cable fee to. The same applies to IPTV, FibeTV, the fee covers the infrastructure to bring a feed into your home, the provider does not earn revenue from the ads the local stations are selling to advertisers, those revenues go to local broadcast stations or networks.

So no conflict there.
 
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