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Macros w Smart Phones

Susquatch

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Some recent discussion got me thinking about taking better Macro Photos with Smart Phones (Apple & Android). Mine just happens to be an Android Samsung. Posts by members with Apples are welcome. This isn't Apple vs Android. It's really about freeing us from the bonds of a digital SLR and taking full advantage of the phone we take with us everywhere!

For the record, I have a Canon EOS Rebel T3i SLR, (15Mp) and old Canon A1. I don't use the A1 anymore because it is film only but I keep it because I loved it in its day and I have a nice range of lenses for it including a really nice dedicated macro lens. I don't have a dedicated lens for the T3i but do have a 1.5 meter macro mode built into a 75-300 EF zoom lens. Not really a fair comparison.

But, this this thread is about better macros on a smartphone. My phone is a Samsung S21. It does not really have a macro setting either. But it does have a laser focussing system that allows fairly nice closeups that rival some of the macro photos I've taken with my SLRs.

Here are a few examples. Note you can further improve them by zooming in.

This a photo of my bluejeans.

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And here is one of a honey bee with pollen on it on my tractor.

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And here is one of a few grains of table salt. This is 1x in macro focus mode.

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To take macro photos on my Samsung, you set your magnification to 1x, then get up close until the camera displays two small yellow dots on the lower left of the screen. That signifies that the laser focus photo enhancer has been turned on. Now you can get MUCH CLOSER - right up close and personal. Sometimes you have to tap the image to refocus. Then take your photo.

For cameras that don't have a close range focussing system, you can zoom out to the farthest non-digital zoom setting (usually someplace around 1/3 of the full zoom) and then get as close to your subject as the camera can focus. Quite often this will be surprisingly good.

Here is a zoomed out closeup taken with my phone.

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The advantage of the zoomed out close up photo is significantly greater depth of field. Note my watch in the upper right corner above. This trick works on any phone with a built in zoom lens. In fact, it will work to some extent on any phone or camera. It's just a matter of figuring out how close you can get and still maintain good focus.

It's hard to beat the convenience of a phone that is always in your pocket. It's just a bit harder to take complicated pictures.

Love to hear from others and see what magic you have come up with!
 
In keeping with the wrists and pants theme, here’s examples of my wife’s brand new 48mp iPhone 15 camera at 10x.Wrist might have been twitching a bit.

The last photo is also at 10x zoom, house across the street. Pretty goood depth of field, first tree is about 20ft from where I’m sitting, second tree is 40ft, house is maybe 70ft.

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In keeping with the wrists and pants theme, here’s examples of my wife’s brand new 48mp iPhone 15 camera at 10x.Wrist might have been twitching a bit.

Nice! I heard the new iPhone had an improved macro mode.

Can you redo the wrist photo as a close focus zoom like mine?

Also, please tell others how to do that to satisfy the purpose of the thread.
 
The iPhone doesn't have any special focusing options, or at least I don’t know how to get at them. Square box pops up for focus, and that’s about it. This is probably about as much exposure the internet needs of my scrawny pasty-white wrist.

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Since this is a machinists forum, here‘s a more appropriate photo. iPhone 15, 10x, on a tripod, 3/8” carbide threading insert.

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Some recent discussion got me thinking about taking better Macro Photos with Smart Phones (Apple & Android). Mine just happens to be an Android Samsung. Posts by members with Apples are welcome. This isn't Apple vs Android. It's really about freeing us from the bonds of a digital SLR and taking full advantage of the phone we take with us everywhere!

For the record, I have a Canon EOS Rebel T3i SLR, (15Mp) and old Canon A1. I don't use the A1 anymore because it is film only but I keep it because I loved it in its day and I have a nice range of lenses for it including a really nice dedicated macro lens. I don't have a dedicated lens for the T3i but do have a 1.5 meter macro mode built into a 75-300 EF zoom lens. Not really a fair comparison.

But, this this thread is about better macros on a smartphone. My phone is a Samsung S21. It does not really have a macro setting either. But it does have a laser focussing system that allows fairly nice closeups that rival some of the macro photos I've taken with my SLRs.

Here are a few examples. Note you can further improve them by zooming in.

This a photo of my bluejeans.

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And here is one of a honey bee with pollen on it on my tractor.

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And here is one of a few grains of table salt. This is 1x in macro focus mode.

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To take macro photos on my Samsung, you set your magnification to 1x, then get up close until the camera displays two small yellow dots on the lower left of the screen. That signifies that the laser focus photo enhancer has been turned on. Now you can get MUCH CLOSER - right up close and personal. Sometimes you have to tap the image to refocus. Then take your photo.

For cameras that don't have a close range focussing system, you can zoom out to the farthest non-digital zoom setting (usually someplace around 1/3 of the full zoom) and then get as close to your subject as the camera can focus. Quite often this will be surprisingly good.

Here is a zoomed out closeup taken with my phone.



The advantage of the zoomed out close up photo is significantly greater depth of field. Note my watch in the upper right corner above. This trick works on any phone with a built in zoom lens. In fact, it will work to some extent on any phone or camera. It's just a matter of figuring out how close you can get and still maintain good focus.

It's hard to beat the convenience of a phone that is always in your pocket. It's just a bit harder to take complicated pictures.

Love to hear from others and see what magic you have come up with!
Curious about the table salt. Where were the granules? Sitting on table saw?
 
I just noticed that you said 10x. Strictly speaking I don't think that is really macro. Then again the definitions have prolly changed as smart phones and pocket cameras have come on the scene. Here is a 10x of my jeans over again.

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The last photo is also at 10x zoom, house across the street. Pretty goood depth of field, first tree is about 20ft from where I’m sitting, second tree is 40ft, house is maybe 70ft.

I didn't see that right away. I think you prolly added it as an edit. Nonetheless, it is very good! Nice photo to show depth of field. Again, please tell us how!

It is dark here so I can't try something similar.
 
I don't have a threading insert. So regular one will have to do.
This one was done with my repaired 24-120mm zoom and cropped it to get the roughly the same horizontal resolution as @Susquatch The depth of field even with small aperture was still not great. I think this is maybe a dog hair better than the cell phone shots.
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I like this one better. I couldn't reduce it to 1500 wide as that would have cropped it. Instead I'd have had to compress the photo which would change the sharpness. I've blurred the background so the cutter jumps out more.
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Oh and the JPG compression also made it fuzzier than the .NEF format.
 
The setup is way more convoluted and I didn't even bring out the lens mounted flash units to improve the lighting. But I find my Samsung Galaxy S10, although it has 3 lenses just doesn't do the same job I can do with my Nikon.
Here I used a sheet of paper to reflect the top of the camera flash for better coverage.
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I don't have a threading insert. So regular one will have to do.

Nice photos with your SLR. (Whose hair is it that got caught in the chipped end of the insert?) The photo gives a nice goal for a smart phone to mimic but prolly not possible.

Keep in mind that this thread is about how to use a smartphone to get the best macro photos possible. Not how to use an SLR. Its good to see what they are up against though.... I'll see what I can do with an insert tomorrow. I don't expect it to be as good as your SLR, but it will be fun to see how close I can get as well as let folks know how it's done.
 
Nice photos with your SLR. (Whose hair is it that got caught in the chipped end of the insert?) The photo gives a nice goal for a smart phone to mimic but prolly not possible.

Keep in mind that this thread is about how to use a smartphone to get the best macro photos possible. Not how to use an SLR. Its good to see what they are up against though.... I'll see what I can do with an insert tomorrow. I don't expect it to be as good as your SLR, but it will be fun to see how close I can get as well as let folks know how it's done.
Yeah. I wasn't trying to show anyone up. The photo of the insert you did was pretty good. And it's been a long going discussion with my son who also has a full frame Nikon but most of the professional work he does now is with his phone.

In my case the SLR image was something like 7400 by 3900 and 42MB. So cropping the NEF raw file to just have what I want still results in a sharp photo. And I do that all the time with my phone picture. Most forums and email lists don't like pictures larger than 400K or so anyway.

But I'll be the first to agree the new phones are pretty amazing.
 
I have a goofy little clip-on lens that offers a wide-angle and a macro lens.

That's amazing!

I've thought about getting a clip on telephoto lens, but I didn't know you can get a macro lens add-on too.

Please tell us all more about that, how it works, it's weaknesses and strengths, and how much it costs.
 
In my case the SLR image was something like 7400 by 3900 and 42MB. So cropping the NEF raw file to just have what I want still results in a sharp photo. And I do that all the time with my phone picture. Most forums and email lists don't like pictures larger than 400K or so anyway.

According to the specs my S21 Android only has 12MP (UltraWide) + 10 MP (Wide) + 10 MP (Telezoom)

But my wife's S23 has 12 MP (Ultra Wide) + 200 MP (Wide) + 10 MP (Telezoom).

But I don't think pixels much matters with a teeny little lens vs a big SLR lens.

I have to say that photo @whydontu took of his scissor blade is simply stunning.

I also agree that it doesn't help to have 50Mb photos when the upload limit is only 5. Still, you can always crop or resize to fit. Upsizing doesn't work nearly as well.
 
My clip-on lens is made by Olloclip, it’s probably five years old and was bought two or three phones ago. The wide angle is useless, I only use the macro lens. I originally bought it so I could take macros of broken valve parts when I was doing field inspections at job sites. London Drugs out here has really good camera departments, and they said the Olloclip one was worth buying. I think it was only about $30, not much of a gamble.

 
My clip-on lens is made by Olloclip, it’s probably five years old and was bought two or three phones ago.

Obviously not gunna fit an Android but I get the idea. A similar unit probably exists for Androids. I just have to find it.

Sure beats those old 2x 3x etc lens adapters that you put between the lens and your SLR!
 
My phone as a 0.5, 1.0 and 2.0 lens. I suspect if I had the phone in a tripod holder and the correct distance I could probably have made a decent closeup with the 2x. And I imagine a lens clipped over the 2x lens would likely also magnify even better. But I'd have to add more light than I had available.
 
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