If memory serves, (some?) plants can be brought across the border but must be bare root.
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Hobby machine shop for sale, $19,999, Norfolk County, ON
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Tom Kitta
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Or dried or something - it has to deal with soil.
Same deal with some fruits - especially fruits made in US like oranges... some vegies made in Canada are ok, like potatoes. Strange rules.
mickeyf
Super User
Apart from the regional price differences.... I don't see most hobbyists buying, or interested in buying a complete shop. Almost by definition a hobbyist already has a lathe of some sort, and likely also a mill or at least a mill drill. Unless they wanted to take on reselling the machines they couldn't use/didn't want, it would just be a big headache.
Why so hard on this guy?
Thats his ask, he might get an offer of 18 or 20 and take that.
Could be true worth if the machines are in decent shape.
Theres probably 5-7k worth of smalls, bits cutters, chucks and so on shown. Whats in the tool chest? There could be 3 k of measuring insturments
The machines are good names, not chinese save for the saw, and at the end of the day he'll probably throw in a whole bunch more stuff not shown to clean up
When i sold my Voest it was worth every penny of the 10k alone came with a 4 jaw, face plate taper attatchment and steady.
As well I threw in a couple thousand worth of tooling and bronze turning stock.
Be kind hey?
Thats his ask, he might get an offer of 18 or 20 and take that.
Could be true worth if the machines are in decent shape.
Theres probably 5-7k worth of smalls, bits cutters, chucks and so on shown. Whats in the tool chest? There could be 3 k of measuring insturments
The machines are good names, not chinese save for the saw, and at the end of the day he'll probably throw in a whole bunch more stuff not shown to clean up
When i sold my Voest it was worth every penny of the 10k alone came with a 4 jaw, face plate taper attatchment and steady.
As well I threw in a couple thousand worth of tooling and bronze turning stock.
Be kind hey?
Dabbler
ersatz engineer
@wmetfab I have presided over the sale of 2 tool and die shops and have been buying and selling used equipment for over 40 years. I include these comments to help educate the newer members about actual values of machinery.
If I have offended you, I am truly sorry.
Bert's complete tool and die shop, with a 9X49 mill and a LeBlond 15X60, A South Bend 9a in like new condition, Mitutoyo and Interrapid metrology, surface plate in new condition and all the secondary tools fetched under 18,000$ all in. I got him at or above ask for everything in the shop, except for his surface grinder, so he sold it through Modern tool for 800$.
The seller in Ontario, in a much lower price point market has machines far inferior to Bert's shop machines..
If I have offended you, I am truly sorry.
Bert's complete tool and die shop, with a 9X49 mill and a LeBlond 15X60, A South Bend 9a in like new condition, Mitutoyo and Interrapid metrology, surface plate in new condition and all the secondary tools fetched under 18,000$ all in. I got him at or above ask for everything in the shop, except for his surface grinder, so he sold it through Modern tool for 800$.
The seller in Ontario, in a much lower price point market has machines far inferior to Bert's shop machines..
mmcmdl
Machinist/Toolmaker ( retired )
Oh WOW ! My first lathe was a 17" Voest ! Nice lathe but it didn't take long for it to do a faceplant on my basement floor . Almost killed the cat and still have the cracks down the basement floor .
I sold the Voest , Bridgeport , 80 gallon Quincy , bead blaster , Kalamazoo band saw , 10HP rotary phase converter + whatever else was down there for $6500 . This was back in the early 90s .Hey guys, im not offended at all, no worries.
I respect your expertise
I contacted the vendor and he's unwavering on his 25k ask and also unwilling to provide any futher information other than "too much to list".
So there it is, best of luck to him
I have also been buying and selling shop and industrial equipment for 40+ yrs.
As a factory dealer, I sold and installed 10+ million worth of ag related machinery in the 9 yrs from 2011 to 2020 before I retired.
I bolted leveled and grouted mine to the concrete. Forget the lathe thank god the cat was ok!!Oh WOW ! My first lathe was a 17" Voest ! Nice lathe but it didn't take long for it to do a faceplant on my basement floor . Almost killed the cat and still have the cracks down the basement floor .
Forget the cat, i can supply toy with many replacements. Some good tempered, some not.
Lotta farmers on here including me. What kind of Ag related machinery?
One of the things I like about this forum is the breadth of secondary knowledge. If you can think of a question, you get answers that are coloured by a huge diversity of career and background knowledge and experience.
Good morning,
I agree with you Susq, no one person has all the knowledge, I appreciate that Colaborative experience is the best way.
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I had a small vinyard as well, I grew and sold ultra premium white wine grapes. They were very much in demand
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Last time I traveled into the Washington state they confiscated my unopened 10 pound bag of potatoes. Ironically they were very clearly labeled as Washington grown.
Tom Kitta
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You cannot bring US grown stuff back to the US - like oranges - you can however, bring Canadian grown stuff in many cases - so if potatoes were labelled "Grown in PEI" they should be OK.
Yeah, nobody wants to pummel him into the dirt. I think its more being hard on his expectations, maybe he's a saint of a guy. otoh, by how little or great an effort he made, he determined the reaction.
Selling off a complete shop? Probably a big challenge unless you deeply discount it. My logic is that the only guy interested in buying a complete shop is they guy with nothing, the rank beginner. That is not someone usually ready to spend 20,000 (little do they know lol). If you want max dollars, you have piecemeal it out: auction, ebay, kijiji etc
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Dabbler
ersatz engineer
With Burt's shop we sold it off piece by piece. With Gurpreet's shop we sold 75% of the small stuff of by the piece, but the big machines we had to sell off at a deep discount all together. The mill was a 7 HP 12"X 60 BP style, surface grinder 12"X30", Hass VF2, EDM die sinker (70s vintage) etc. Even the bandsaw wouldn't sell - a 3ph 16X9 Carolina.
Dan Dubeau
Ultra Member
Buying an entire shop at once gets you right at the pointy of of making stuff right off the bat. Who want's that? Where the fun in just being able to make something that you desire without first having to keep a close eye on the classifieds for weeks/months/years for the right machines for great deals, then spend another few weeks/months/years making support tooling and special fixtures etc......I mean, I guess that would be ok for some.....
lol, of course it makes a lot of sense with the benefit of our perspective ...... but I speculate its a pretty rare dude who's going to go "this seems kind of interesting, I might like this,. let's drop 20,000 and find out". Naw, death by a thousands cuts is the preferred entry.
Kind of too bad as there is lots of value in the collection, like you point out. years of piecing it together. (although you can never realize that value except in use)
Kind of too bad as there is lots of value in the collection, like you point out. years of piecing it together. (although you can never realize that value except in use)