What kind of roof?
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It’s going to be a simple shingle roof. I have a roll of 60# paper so I’ll lay down four or so layers of that and then shingle it. Shallow slope but I don’t have a lot of options to maintain as much height as possible.
Right now I have four feet vertical to the bottom of the ‘rafters’.
Looks a bit like the place my wife sends me to sleep once in awhile.
Been there done that have the 'T' shirt, over time one forgets how many visits and forgetting is likely what got you there in the first place. LOL
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With very iittle slope, I would not bother with the shingles. Just put two layers of rain gaurd on it.
The floor is complete and basically in the right place. The walls are framed but just tacked to the floor and the roof is only tacked at the front.
I’ll pull the roof off and shingle it, pull the walls out and sheet them.
I'll slide the sheeted walls back into position and screw them into the floor, then lift the roof back into position and attach it to the walls.
Then I'll build the door and trim out the front.
@jcdammeyer
I’ll pull the roof off and shingle it, pull the walls out and sheet them.
I'll slide the sheeted walls back into position and screw them into the floor, then lift the roof back into position and attach it to the walls.
Then I'll build the door and trim out the front.
@jcdammeyer
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I second that question.
LOL! Beat me to it with that one! I was scrolling down to post & saw yours!
BTW, my vote for the roof (and walls) is roll roofing. No seams (on top) and roll it down over the sides too!
Are you sure you don't want to put the shed on rollers recessed into the floor?
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I can't fault you for that, storage space cleaned out and no cash layout! Saves $ for those rollers.
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The trouble is that shingles will not seal a flat roof. The wood will just turn into a moldy mess underneath them. Get a small roll of rain and ice gaurd. It will stick to your existing plywood and seal around the roofing nails. As @Tecnico says, just fold it over the walls.
Do you have a link to this stuff?
Here you go.
GRACE ICE & WATER SHIELD® Roofing Underlayment | GCP Applied Technologies
Other waterproofing products have an inconsistent seal. Grace Ice & Water Shield® roofing underlayment seals around fasteners, seals directly to the deck and seals to itself for watertight laps, protecting roofs from the damaging effects of water.
ca.gcpat.com
You can get it at Home Hardware, Home Depot, Roofing Companies, Rona, Lowe's, etc etc.
But I agree with @YotaBota . Just stop someplace where they are doing a new roof and beg for a small piece.
If they don't have it, make a note to NEVER use them to roof your house. Any reputable roofer will apply one of two strips of Rain & Ice Gaurd along the bottom edge of your roof before nailing on the shingles. Basically, it stops water from backing up at the bottom due to freezing or ice buildup.
Dabbler
ersatz engineer
I get asked to do friends and friend of friends roofs, because a lot of roofers in Calgary see roofing as unskilled. To the point: a lot of their workers don't realize water runs downhill. I also oversee roof jobs where insurance dictates the short list of companies and the customer wants a leak-proof roof.
For instance, reusing the tar paper with thousands of holes in it. Really? for saving 100-200$ on a 14K$ job they do the shortcut and the roof leaks. No ice shield is a touchy spot for me, No drip guard on the perimeter. What REALLY bugs me is no drip guard on gable ends. the plywood is directly exposed to weather. Relying on plastic cement as flashing instead of lead or galvanized flashing -- nope. On one member's house they left a bunch of nails exposed, on cowings for penetrations and end of the peak. I could list 30 more bad practices I've seen.
Here in Calgary *most* roofers are unskilled.
For instance, reusing the tar paper with thousands of holes in it. Really? for saving 100-200$ on a 14K$ job they do the shortcut and the roof leaks. No ice shield is a touchy spot for me, No drip guard on the perimeter. What REALLY bugs me is no drip guard on gable ends. the plywood is directly exposed to weather. Relying on plastic cement as flashing instead of lead or galvanized flashing -- nope. On one member's house they left a bunch of nails exposed, on cowings for penetrations and end of the peak. I could list 30 more bad practices I've seen.
Here in Calgary *most* roofers are unskilled.
It's not much different here in Ontario @Dabbler .
I am not good with heights so I have not done many roofs myself. The first roof I did myself was actually on the home farm in Saskatchewan. When I hire a roofer, I go by their reputation not the lowest price.
Like you, I'm a real stickler on the details. Everything from proper use of step flashing, to valleys, to rain & ice gaurd (I even want 2 rows not one) to drip edges, and on and on. I think my biggest bitch is improper (or no) step flashing.
I once had to go after an outfit that sealed my driveway without getting our consent and actually had the balls to put a lean on our house when we refused to pay. I had to take it to small claims court. He hired a lawyer - I didn't. His own lawyer threw him under the bus. Part of the lawyers defense was to point out that guys doing driveways are not nearly as bad as roofers. I remember it because the whole court room burst out laughing.
Anyways, I'm not really adding any value here. Just reminiscing and agreeing with you. Roofers and driveway pavers are generally a bad lot.
Perhaps if I could add just one detail nobody has mentioned (or I didn't spot it) is the use of long life shingles. I always pay the extra for long life shingles. As a result, I've never had a wind or hail related failure even when every other roof in the area was blitzed. As a bonus they usually look better too.
Dabbler
ersatz engineer
Good point. I've moved to using rubber roofing. zero chance of hail damage, faster to install, Looks like they'll outlast asphalt, and it recycles tires.