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Data plates steel nails or rivets

Dusty

Dusty

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Friend of mine asked me what the name of these special nails or rivets are called. They are usually round headed and used for holding manufactures plates and such on motors and older shop equipment. One drills a small hole then gently tap them in I assume. Anyone have such an animal kicking around like smallish in size?

Questions I come up with. LOL
 
Would these work?

Gripnail - Name Plate Rivets

MetalTack fastens lightweight parts to solid metal products such as pumps, valves and machinery. It is impacted directly into the base metal and form a permanent mechanical connection which will hold up to 250 pounds. There is no need for drilling or other surface preparation.
www.gripnail.com
 
Chip Maker said:
Would these work?

Gripnail - Name Plate Rivets

MetalTack fastens lightweight parts to solid metal products such as pumps, valves and machinery. It is impacted directly into the base metal and form a permanent mechanical connection which will hold up to 250 pounds. There is no need for drilling or other surface preparation.
www.gripnail.com
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Probably would although the U drive screws with helix threads in @tirvin post is exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you just the same!
 
6.5 Fan said:
Trlvn has the right ones you want. I had a few that came out of something, disappeared from the shop.
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That's what happened to my friend, in repainting an older wood working machine he carefully removed said screws without damaging anything. Placed the four type "U" drive screws into a small container now he can't find them. Soon as he gets new one he will Murphy's law. LOL
 
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Dusty said:
That's what happened to my friend, in repainting an older wood working machine he carefully removed said screws without damaging anything. Placed the four type "U" drive screws into a small container now he can't find them. Soon as he gets new one he will Murphy's law. LOL
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How the heck do you remove those things without destroying them?
 
YYCHM said:
How the heck do you remove those things without destroying them?
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Hey Craig, my friend says the drive screw holes were drilled through the 1/4" thick cast iron so he gently tapped them out from the back then saved them. Where he put same is the mystery, absent minded professor and we've all been there, done that. LOL
 
When I was restoring my South Bend 9A's I found that on the odd occasion the holes for these do not go all the way through and you can't tap them out from the other side. In such a case you can cut a slot in the head with a Dremel tool and turn them out like a regular screw. In fact when I lost some of mine rather than ordering from some distant place and jumping through multiple hoops to get some micro parts, I just substituted a small brass round headed wood screw of appropriate size. Ground off the sharp point and hammered it in as if it was a drive screw. Worked beautifully!
 
Canadium said:
When I was restoring my South Bend 9A's I found that on the odd occasion the holes for these do not go all the way through and you can't tap them out from the other side. In such a case you can cut a slot in the head with a Dremel tool and turn them out like a regular screw. In fact when I lost some of mine rather than ordering from some distant place and jumping through multiple hoops to get some micro parts, I just substituted a small brass round headed wood screw of appropriate size. Ground off the sharp point and hammered it in as if it was a drive screw. Worked beautifully!
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Always amassed at the little tricks and innovative ways fellow members come up with to resolve issues. Thank you @Canadium
 
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Dusty said:
Hey Craig, my friend says the drive screw holes were drilled through the 1/4" thick cast iron so he gently tapped them out from the back then saved them. Where he put same is the mystery, absent minded professor and we've all been there, done that. LOL
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I have either pulled them out with a crowfoot or turned them out with mini-vice grips. I've never been lucky enough to have access to their behinds via a thru hole.

Today, I might try to use or make a small collet.
 
For simple stuff like this, most of these are brass or copper pins, with a domed head, a simple cheat is find Aluminium Nails cut them slightly long and drive in with a recessed punch to give the domed shape. All the pins do when the bottom out is expand slight to wedge themselves in.

Solid copper wire does the same trick.
 
Dusty said:
Hey Craig, my friend says the drive screw holes were drilled through the 1/4" thick cast iron so he gently tapped them out from the back then saved them. Where he put same is the mystery, absent minded professor and we've all been there, done that. LOL
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@YYCHM Hey Craig great news, eureka is a better choice of a word. My friend while searching for something else ran across his lost type "U" drive screws this morning exactly where he tucked them away. Happier than a pig in shit says he. Case of the missing closed. LOL

Thanks to everyone for their posts.
 
When I repainted my Logan I left the plate on the HS and very carefully masked the side edges of the plate making sure the tape didn't touch the HS. Worked like a charm, fiddly but worked well with no plate damage. Lots of light coats around that area made sure there was no build up of paint and the paint made it's way under the plate with no paint on the side edge of the plate. Saved trying to remove the plate without damaging it and I didn't need to find new rivets.
 

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When I repainted my Logan I left the plate on the HS and very carefully masked the side edges of the plate making sure the tape didn't touch the HS. Worked like a charm, fiddly but worked well with no plate damage. Lots of light coats around that area made sure there was no build up of paint and the paint made it's way under the plate with no paint on the side edge of the plate. Saved trying to remove the plate without damaging it and I didn't need to find new rivets.
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@YotaBota Mike your hired for my next paint job, likely a long distance call from heaven not that I'm planning on going anywhere.
 
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