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Chipmaster Lathe, 500$, Haldimand County

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Good winter months project - with potentially a great story ending.

Or a money pit ooops?
 
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CWret said:
Good winter months project - with potentially a great story ending.

Or a money pit ooops?
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I paid $750 for mine. It was in 1000% better condition.

This one is junk not worth consideration given the lack of parts availability and the surety that there are major parts needing replacement.

I dont even no that it is worth it as an organ donor
 
I differentiate reconditioning and restoring and think they have little in common. My sense of restoration in the common vernacular is a bit of lipstick and paint, sometimes on the leadscrew as well, but really cosmetic stuff and nothing that improves performance, removes wear etc. Reconditioning otoh is scraping or grinding every bearing surface to correct geometry and fit with its mate, redoing the tailstock bore and quil, replacing bearings etc.... all to factory new accuracy and performance.

My thought is that one is not that much worse than anther reconditioning project as every bearing surface needs work regardless. And you always have to really want to do a reconditioning for it to happen as it is so much work, but yeah for sure there is more work there than there'd be on a nicer one. ;)
 
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Dabbler said:
Agreed. But the buyer has to really want to do machine restoration, as this is a project, no doubt.
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But the potential buyer who really really wants to restore a chipmaster has to be ignorant of the market to the extent they'd settle for such a poor example or for lack of patience.
 
Mcgyver said:
I differentiatee reconditioning and restoring as having little in common. My sense of restoration in the common vernacular is a bit of lipstick and paint, sometimes on the leadscrew as well, but really cosmetic stuff and nothing improves performance, removes wear etc. Reconditioning otoh is scraping or grinding every bearing surface to correct geometry and fit with its mate, redoing the tailstock bore and quil, replacing bearings etc.... all to factory new accuracy and performance.

My thougght is taht one likely no worse than anther reconditioning project as every bearing surface needs work regardless. You always have to really want to do a reconditioning for it to happen as it is so much work
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OTOH new bearings are not to be had for the chippie though, so a buyer is best to find the best used example they can.
 
TorontoBuilder said:
OTOH new bearings are not to be had for the chippie though, so a buyer is best to find the best used example they can.
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You no doubt know more than I about that model, but I thought there was still availability or a work around or something?

Anyway, I was more thinking all the bearings in the gearboxes, saddle etc. I've had to do spindle bearings in a couple of machines, but never one with an oil bath so have been lulled into the perhaps false sense of security that if there is a head stock oil bath, you should be ok. I say false as while its been my experience I admit it doesn't mean its true for the next one
 
Mcgyver said:
You no doubt know more than I about that model, but I thought there was still availability or a work around or something?

Anyway, I was more thinking all the bearings in the gearboxes, saddle etc. I've had to do spindle bearings in a couple of machines, but never one with an oil bath so have been lulled into the perhaps false sense of security that if there is a head stock oil bath, you should be ok. I say false as while its been my experience I admit it doesn't mean its true for the next one
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I looked and looked to no avail so I was looking at buying spare machines to part out and save bearings from. I found used bearing set in UK but before I could save the arm and a leg to buy them someone else beat me to them

Oil seals are another problem, with a couple being unobtainable and needing to be fabricated if needing replacement. This lathe does have a variator which would be nice if it was the same model as the one I have and want to eventually restore
 
TorontoBuilder said:
Just an update, I inquired as to the missing tail stock because I was considering it as a parts lathe but the seller proved to be a rude azz person. Before I was able to ask if the price was negotiable he blocked me.

Pretty funny considering I was likely his best opportunity for a quick sale
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Tailstock aside, finding a cross slide and compound, is gonna be equally as much a PITA.

As I see it, at about half the ask, it 'might' be an OK buy, if you had a machine without the gears and quadrants under the cover at the headstock end.
 
The ad says he has the compound, so figure its likely with the cross slide. I agree, wouldn't touch it, except if you needed it for parts, if missing either.
 
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