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935 mill harmonic hum

PeterT

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I cross posted this on HM forum, Precision Mathews sub forum because its the 'same' machine but not PM. Thought I'd bounce off you guys in case you have ideas.

I have a (not PM) but likely identical Taiwan 935-VS mill. I'm not sure if I just never noticed a sound that has always been there, or maybe hearing it different recently with the speed set at similar RPM on recent machining op. When I first turn it on, its the silky smooth motor running sound for maybe 5-7 secs. Then it kind of makes a low frequency in & out, low hum, maybe a second in duration, spaced 3 seconds apart at say 1000 rpm. Its not a problematic vibration or anything. If I put my finger on the underside of the cover plate & squint my eyes, it seems to corresponding to where the noise is coming from. If I switch to low gear noise is either gone or barely perceptible (hence my guess rpm/harmonic?).

From what I can see of the parts, schematic, that bottom cover is below where the sliding cone discs & a spring is located. I could readily visualize the spring doing a bit of shimmy like this, although it could be any combination of sliding/moving part.

Any comments? Any advise before removing the cover plate? Will parts come flying out or is it just sealing off the assembly inside? I undid the cap screws, it didn't drop off so thought I'd ask first (but could also just be new machine paint in the crack).There is kind of a circular boss in the casting although I don't think it holds a bearing attached to the drive shaft assembly or anything. I see a (45) spring flange but assume that just retains the spring etc. & not connected to the plate?
 

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I wonder if it is an out of phase harmonic between the two sheaves - like propellers / jet engine fans on a multi- engine airplane? Maybe belt noise?
 
I'll have some pics for tomorrow & fingers crossed a video. I removed the bottom cover & indeed there is a recess to contain a bearing. That's why it didn't just slide off. I gingerly opened the gap equally around the sides until it came off. So I'm pretty sure that particular schematic is not my machine. I'll check my manual again (its really quite brutal).

My bearing looks & feels great. There is a bit of belt dust in there but I would say as expected for a low hrs machine. I noticed the one toothed belt was riding a bit low on the toothed wheel, like adjacent to the upper housing floor.

I removed the side cooling grill covers to shine a light in there while running. Nothing out of ordinary stood out. I see a few linkage levers with pivots, shaft within a hole type mechanisms that could be hum culprits. The spring seems very stiff to be humming, but its all relative to the power & motion. Maybe it is mild belt hum related to tension. I pushed the end of a Popsicle stick lightly on the side while running & don't think I cancelled anything, but there are other belts in there.

Well, let me organize some things & provide more visual to what I'm seeing (and hopefully what I'm hearing).
 
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