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14” metal saw
- Thread starter Tom O
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DPittman
Ultra Member
I haven't done any of the above, but I can tell you that my metal carbide blade chop saw is a more rigid stronger design than my abrasive blade chop saw. I think the sloppiness and play in a typical abrasive chop saw could be disaster if a carbide tooth blade was used. Maybe there are newer abrasive saw blade saws that would work fine with?
The vise on my carbide blade saw is also much better than the one on my abrasive saw.
That about sums up my concerns. I never even considered putting a carbide blade on my abrasive chop saw until I saw the photo of the subject unit in this thread. It doesn't really look any different than mine. Perhaps even less rigid than mine. So it got me wondering....
Regardless, I hate the vise on mine. It's impossible to mount small stock or even long small stock. I have fabricobled ways to hold small stock but I always cringe when I do it and stand as far away from the danger zone as possible. A better vise would be a god-send.
DPittman
Ultra Member
Oh ya the two saw types typically run at different rpm as well.
I think a poor vise on a carbide tooth saw would be also upping the disaster potential.
That makes sense.
Ok, I'll close door on that hair-brained idea.
The improved vise idea is still alive and well though....... LOL!
little ol' e
Jus' a hobby guy
IMHO, they work great for cutting aluminum extrusion with a carbide saw blade.
Anything other than that, I wouldn't recommend them, even if improving the holding vice/base.
Anything other than that, I wouldn't recommend them, even if improving the holding vice/base.
Yes I have. I was never totally comfortable with it, but it worked until I broke down and bought a Makita metal saw. The vice was not the issue with mine. It was running the blade at double the recommended speed with the light blade guards.
Here is mine.
I can see why you would say that. But one look at your shop and I don't think my needs are as intensive as yours. I literally wore out a previous unit I got at Princess Auto. But then again, I didn't have a band saw back then so it was used for everything I could get between its teeth.
I usually cut aluminium tubing with an old corded circular saw. But I can't weld aluminium so I don't do a lot of that.
I can see why you would say that. But one look at your shop and I don't think my needs are as intensive as yours. I literally wore out a previous unit I got at Princess Auto. But then again, I didn't have a band saw back then so it was used for everything I could get between its teeth.
I usually cut aluminium tubing with an old corded circular saw. But I can't weld aluminium so I don't do a lot of that.
Tom Kitta
Ultra Member
You can do that but for aluminum only.
Most blades cannot make it over 2000 rpm. Most abrasive chop saw are at 4000 rpm. You need to slow down your chop saw to say 1500 rpm to even look into using carbide metal cutting blade.
Ya, got that message loud and clear already from an earlier post. Don't know what I was thinking.
I bought the evolution saw when it was only around Xmas. As @Tom Kitta said, rpm is sub 1500rpm and the rigidity of the saw/vise is probably 5x over my abrasive saw.
After running both I would not want to try the carbide on the abrasive .
After running both I would not want to try the carbide on the abrasive .
little ol' e
Jus' a hobby guy
You can get 14" carbide saw blades with 60T or 80T for aluminum which will run in any chop saw.
They are rated for over 5K RPM.
They are rated for over 5K RPM.
little ol' e
Jus' a hobby guy
Check out Canadian Welding Supply.
It;s all good, so long as you remember to have the camera rolling
imo the only place to use those abrasive saws is the driveway.....man, they spray grit everywhere!
That's sorta what I do. I put the saw inside the shop on the edge of the 16ft doorway sill right in the middle of the door opening so the dust sprays out onto the driveway and is unlikely to get tracked back in.